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Sergey Kubushyn <ksi@koi8.net>: Jan 13 11:56PM

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On Fri, 12 Jan 2018 16:10:09 -0800 (PST), George Herold
 
>In the US, I think it's mostly a political thing, R's are
>worried that immigrants will be D's and so want less,
>D's visa versa.
 
It's a little more than that. The Rs want cheap labor and don't
understand that they'll never retain any power if the doors are thrown
open.
 
>in, grow the economy with numbers.. most important
>is the next step, balance the budget, and then each new
>worker takes on part of the national debt.
 
Why? If we need laborers, they can be brought in on (temporary)
visas.
 
>(I figure, once my kids start working, my share goes down. :^)
 
If you keep voting for snowflake lefties, it'll go up a lot faster
than you can grow kids.
 
 
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Sergey Kubushyn <ksi@koi8.net>: Jan 13 11:56PM

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[ From: George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> ]
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> >worker takes on part of the national debt.
 
> Why? If we need laborers, they can be brought in on (temporary)
> visas.
 
Right LWS (liberal weenie snowflake) I would rather have people
living here. Buying houses, paying taxes, kids part of the local
soccer team.
 
> >(I figure, once my kids start working, my share goes down. :^)
 
> If you keep voting for snowflake lefties, it'll go up a lot faster
> than you can grow kids.
Well with my kids, kids I can get a geometric growth going...
though with only two I'm not off to a good start. :^)
 
I think I'm paying ~$1k less, from the doubling of the standard deduction,
(though I'm not sure.) Big tax cuts and no budget, what's the prediction
for the debt increase this year?
 
George H.
 
 
 
 
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Sergey Kubushyn <ksi@koi8.net>: Jan 13 11:56PM

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>>worker takes on part of the national debt.
 
>Why? If we need laborers, they can be brought in on (temporary)
>visas.
 
As long as people want to eat, there will always be citizens to grow
and harvest and cook the crops. Japan and Denmark never starved for
lack of illegal immigrant farm labor. They just paid enough to get the
labor that they needed.
 
The jobs that "Americans don't want", farm work and construction and
such, aren't wanted because cheap immigrant labor has driven the pay
scale down. Caesar Chavez hated "wetback" illegal workers precisely
for that reason.
 
 
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Sergey Kubushyn <ksi@koi8.net>: Jan 13 11:56PM

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On Fri, 12 Jan 2018 16:10:09 -0800 (PST), George Herold
>in, grow the economy with numbers.. most important
>is the next step, balance the budget, and then each new
>worker takes on part of the national debt.
 
More people will make more productivity and more consumption, which
cancels first-order but causes crowding in urban areas. If the
immigrants are less productive than the average population, or are
willing to work for less, they reduce overall well-being.
 
Growing the economy with numbers, just increasing GDP, is not
inherently a good thing to do.
 
 
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lunatic fringe electronics
 
 
 
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Sergey Kubushyn <ksi@koi8.net>: Jan 13 11:56PM

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On 01/12/2018 06:22 PM, John Robertson wrote:
 
> I found your presidents remarks to be extremely repugnant. He is just
> another school yard bully.
 
> John
 
It's kind of a contradictory way to be to brag that America is the
greatest nation in the world and then get pissed that a lot of people
want to immigrate. Kind of like advertising that your restaurant has the
best hamburgers in the world and getting annoyed that the advertising
works and people start come wanting a taste.
 
The problem the US has seems to be one of "market segment." If it's
mainly the violent and desperate that are turning up at your "club" then
one might suggest to stop making it so appealing to that demographic.
 
 
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Sergey Kubushyn <ksi@koi8.net>: Jan 13 11:57PM

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On Fri, 12 Jan 2018 15:22:35 -0800, John Robertson <spam@flippers.com>
wrote:
 
 
>I found your presidents remarks to be extremely repugnant. He is just
>another school yard bully.
 
>John
 
He is coarse and crude, but he has a point. There are countries where
the majority of the population, especially women, are illiterate.
Where FGM is normal and gang rape is a team sport. Where tribes and
religions have been at war for a thousand years.
 
A billion people would emigrate to Europe or to the USA if they could.
We don't want all of them.
 
 
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lunatic fringe electronics
 
 
 
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Sergey Kubushyn <ksi@koi8.net>: Jan 13 11:58PM

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On Sat, 13 Jan 2018 09:43:54 -0800, John Larkin
>>another school yard bully.
 
>>John
 
>He is coarse and crude, but he has a point.
 
He still claims that he didn't say it and others, who were there, have
said that they didn't hear him say it, either. What he should say is
"I didn't say 'shithole' but I should have." Wind up the lefties some
more. Watch their heads spin for weeks!
 
>religions have been at war for a thousand years.
 
>A billion people would emigrate to Europe or to the USA if they could.
>We don't want all of them.
^^^ any
 
 
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Sergey Kubushyn <ksi@koi8.net>: Jan 13 11:54PM

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>> Immigrant: "I'm a shithole and I want to immigrate!"
 
>> America: "Sorry, we're full up"
 
> My Jove, I think she's got it!
 
The filling process started circa 1620
 
 
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Sergey Kubushyn <ksi@koi8.net>: Jan 13 11:54PM

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> >> My Jove, I think she's got it!
 
> >The filling process started circa 1620
 
> I can go with that. It's now complete.
 
Krw thinks that America is now perfect, exactly the way it is.
 
People who can manage joined up thinking have their doubts.
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Spirit_Level:_Why_More_Equal_Societies_Almost_Always_Do_Better
 
Krw won't read it. He rails about other people being illiterate, even when they are posting to a text-only use-group, but shows no sign of ever having read a book for himself.
 
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Sergey Kubushyn <ksi@koi8.net>: Jan 13 11:53PM

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On 12/01/18 20:35, Jim Thompson wrote:
>> are left with those who cannot make it any better
 
> The converse is working out so very well in Europe, isn't it ?>:-}
 
> We need admission by MERIT only.
 
Anybody that can get to the US is likely to be a notch above
the average in some way or other.
 
Of course there's always the catty comment that someone
that emigrates from X to Y improves the IQ of both X and Y.
 
 
 
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Sergey Kubushyn <ksi@koi8.net>: Jan 13 11:59PM

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>>A billion people would emigrate to Europe or to the USA if they could.
>>We don't want all of them.
> ^^^ any
 
We could admit some people, from everywhere, if we screened them, and
then monitored them and kick out the bad ones. An illegal with a
half-dozen felony arrests should't be walking the streets of the USA.
Heck, a citizen with a half dozen felonies shouldn't be free, but we
can't deport him.
 
We do need to control the border. Most countries do.
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Sergey Kubushyn <ksi@koi8.net>: Jan 13 11:54PM

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>> Anybody that can get to the US is likely to be a notch above
>> the average in some way or other.
 
> Nonsense.
 
America is a great place to hustle and own a bunch of guns. So it
attracts people who want to hustle and own a bunch of guns. QED
 
 
 
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Sergey Kubushyn <ksi@koi8.net>: Jan 13 11:54PM

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On Fri, 12 Jan 2018 22:24:38 -0500, bitrex
 
>> Nonsense.
 
>America is a great place to hustle and own a bunch of guns. So it
>attracts people who want to hustle and own a bunch of guns. QED
 
Well you said one thing today that made sense. Miracles do happen but
it's not in the above.
 
 
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Sergey Kubushyn <ksi@koi8.net>: Jan 13 11:54PM

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>> We need admission by MERIT only.
 
> Or ZERO admissions until all the immigrants we have, have been
> assimilated. It's been done before (took 20 years).
 
But now it will never happen the same way. To quote myself:
 
When 6 year old immigrant kids are asked what they are, they say
American. When they graduate high school they say Columbian or Haitian
or whatever.
 
 
 
 
 
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Sergey Kubushyn <ksi@koi8.net>: Jan 13 11:54PM

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On Fri, 12 Jan 2018 13:35:56 -0700, Jim Thompson
>>are left with those who cannot make it any better
 
>The converse is working out so very well in Europe, isn't it ?>:-}
 
>We need admission by MERIT only.
 
Or ZERO admissions until all the immigrants we have, have been
assimilated. It's been done before (took 20 years).
 
 
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Sergey Kubushyn <ksi@koi8.net>: Jan 13 11:54PM

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On Fri, 12 Jan 2018 20:26:14 -0500, "Tom Del Rosso"
 
>When 6 year old immigrant kids are asked what they are, they say
>American. When they graduate high school they say Columbian or Haitian
>or whatever.
 
To quote myself:
 
...until all the immigrants we have, have been assimilated.
 
 
 
 
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Sergey Kubushyn <ksi@koi8.net>: Jan 13 11:54PM

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On Fri, 12 Jan 2018 20:54:51 +0000, Tom Gardner
 
>> We need admission by MERIT only.
 
>Anybody that can get to the US is likely to be a notch above
>the average in some way or other.
 
Nonsense.
 
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Sergey Kubushyn <ksi@koi8.net>: Jan 13 11:53PM

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On Fri, 12 Jan 2018 12:32:24 -0800 (PST), Lasse Langwadt Christensen
 
>one way to look at that is that it would be unfair to those countries.
>if all those with merits, brain and drive move away the "shithole countries"
>are left with those who cannot make it any better
 
The converse is working out so very well in Europe, isn't it ?>:-}
 
We need admission by MERIT only.

...Jim Thompson
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Sergey Kubushyn <ksi@koi8.net>: Jan 13 11:54PM

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>> Haitian or whatever.
 
> To quote myself:
 
> ...until all the immigrants we have, have been assimilated.
 
My point is that some people won't let them assimilate in 20 years or
ever.
 
 
 
 
 
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Sergey Kubushyn <ksi@koi8.net>: Jan 14 12:00AM

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On Sat, 13 Jan 2018 10:51:58 -0800, John Larkin wrote:
 
> Heck, a citizen with a half dozen felonies shouldn't be free, but we
> can't deport him.
 
Oh, you have the same bullshit to put up with in the US as we do in
Europe, then! Globalists undermining good governance from a supranational
level on both sides of the pond. What a surprise. Those cunts will be
meeting in Davos to plot against us again very soon now. The annual
gathering of the scum of the earth.
 
 
 
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Sergey Kubushyn <ksi@koi8.net>: Jan 14 12:03AM

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>>A billion people would emigrate to Europe or to the USA if they could.
>>We don't want all of them.
> ^^^ any
 
Let's just suppose that Trump DID say it _exactly_ as quoted... want
to make something of it? ("Progressives" are such piece-a-shit
hypocrites >:-}

...Jim Thompson
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Sergey Kubushyn <ksi@koi8.net>: Jan 13 11:31PM

Собираюсь отфорвардить целую нитку, более 100 сообщений, из
не-болтологической ньюсгруппы (sci.electronics.design), где обретаются
_НАСТОЯЩИЕ_ инженеры и многие из тех, чьи фамилии можно найти в "Art of
Electronics" включая её автора, Вина Хилла. Равно как и некоторые ещё живые
авторы других, менее известных библий электроники.
 
Может оно и слишком сурово, но хочу ознакомить местных либерастов и иже с
тем, что о тех "shithole countries" и вообще иммиграции думают местные
инженеры. Которые таки инженеры и на которых держатся остатки того, что
здесь ещё осталось. Они, конечно, тоже deplorables для всяких метропидоров и
не очень сильно любят всяких мечтателей и иже, но это не те красношеие
фермеры, которыми пытаются представить их либерасты. Это наша техническая
элита, которая реально работает и на которой держится всё ещё каким-то чудом
оставшееся в этой стране. И на котором паразитирует свора всяких кругманов,
масков и им подобных.
 
Есть там и некоторое количество вулахокривицких (почти все из-за пределов
США) пытающихся научить нас жить правильно, что тоже интересно посмотреть.
 
На всякий случай -- мопед не мой, я только разместил объяву :)
 
Так что залегай, мля...
 
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Sergey Kubushyn <ksi@koi8.net>: Jan 13 11:38PM

> США) пытающихся научить нас жить правильно, что тоже интересно посмотреть.
 
> На всякий случай -- мопед не мой, я только разместил объяву :)
 
> Так что залегай, мля...
 
OK, первая попытка зафигачить всю нитку неудачна, только два раза первое
сообщение из нитки. Ща попробую другим способом...
 
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sergiy.shpak@gmail.com: Jan 13 11:39AM -0800

> Что характерно, Гаити в сегодняшнем виде - творение белых колонизаторов,
 
ага.
8 лет назад устроили землетрясение и теперь не дают восстанавливать.
при Дювалье таково не было!!!
YuraS <jupastor@gmail.com>: Jan 13 04:01PM -0500

On 1/12/2018 9:10 PM, Sergey Kubushyn wrote:
> случае можно было даже и публично потому как правда. Которая не всегда очень
> красива и приятна, но от этого не перестаёт быть правдой. А тех, кто с
> планёрки вынес на публику (если оно даже и было), на фонарь.
 
А потом они - демократы - жутко обижаются, что с ними не хотят
договариваться. Ну как можно договариваться с теми, кто ищет только
повода тебя обгадить? Договаривание, вообще-то, подразумевает хоть
какую-то степень доверия.
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